Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/08/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 57 MARINE PARKS ADDITIONS/HUNTING ALLOWED TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 57(RES) Out of Committee
+ HB 13 RETIREMENT SYSTEM LIABILITY/BONDS/CORP. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 119 SCHOOL LIBRARY GRANTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 119(FIN) Out of Committee
SENATE BILL NO. 119                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act establishing a grant program to support public                                                                     
     school libraries."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[A previous motion to adopt CSHB 119(FIN), version C, was                                                                       
withdrawn.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  MOVED to  ADOPT  CSSB 119(FIN),  labeled  25-                                                                   
LS0749\M, Mischel, 2/5/08.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:23:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN PETERSON, STAFF, SENATOR  BERT STEDMAN, explained that                                                                   
the  current  version of  the  bill  changes Section  1,  the                                                                   
library  construction  and  major  expansion  matching  grant                                                                   
program  part of  the  bill, from  having  the Department  of                                                                   
Education  administrating  the  grant to  the  Department  of                                                                   
Commerce, Community  and Economic Development.   The Board of                                                                   
Education is no longer involved  in adopting the regulations.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The  major  expansion  is  now defined  as  an  expansion  to                                                                   
increase the square  footage of a structure by  not less than                                                                   
30 percent.  On page 2, line 3,  eligibility requirements are                                                                   
outlined.  A library has to be  publically owned and operated                                                                   
and located  in a  community with a  population of  less than                                                                   
10,000 persons.   Local communities must now  provide a match                                                                   
of 20  percent or  more.   The state  can contribute  no more                                                                   
than 50 percent.  Private donors would pick up the rest.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The library collection  grant has been changed  in subsection                                                                   
(c),  line 24,  to  say that  if there  is  not enough  money                                                                   
appropriated,  it  goes  to  the   highest  ranking  eligible                                                                   
grantee.   If there is too  much money appropriated,  it goes                                                                   
back into the general fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:26:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Peterson described  the change on page 3, lines  23 - 25,                                                                   
which  was  in  response  to  Senator  Elton's  concern  that                                                                   
schools may use  the money to supplant  their responsibility.                                                                   
The library  collection grants  may not  be used to  supplant                                                                   
school district library expenditures.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman  asked   about   the   criteria  to   rank                                                                   
applicants.  Mr.  Peterson replied that the  criteria will be                                                                   
developed  by  the  Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and                                                                   
Economic Development through regulations.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson referred  to the  eligibility  section of  the                                                                   
bill and  asked if  some libraries are  being excluded.   Mr.                                                                   
Peterson  replied  that the  grant  is for  construction  and                                                                   
major  expansion  of  publically  owned  libraries,  not  for                                                                   
school libraries.   He said the title was changed  to reflect                                                                   
that.   Part of  the bill  deals with  public school  library                                                                   
collection   grants  and   part  of   the  bill  deals   with                                                                   
construction   grants   for   public   libraries   in   small                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:27:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  WITHDREW his  objection to adopt  version M                                                                   
of  SB 119.   There  being NO  further OBJECTION,  it was  so                                                                   
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:28:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUDITH MCQUERRY,  KETCHIKAN, testified in support  of SB 119.                                                                   
She asked  why there  was a  population limit  of 10,000  for                                                                   
communities.   She thought the  community of Ketchikan  would                                                                   
not  qualify for  the  grant,  however, the  municipality  of                                                                   
Ketchikan would.   Co-Chair Stedman  clarified that  the city                                                                   
of  Ketchikan would  qualify  for the  grant  program with  a                                                                   
population of 7,622.  Smaller  communities would apply and be                                                                   
ranked, and  then the  legislature would  approve a  block of                                                                   
funds.   Large populations such  as Juneau with  30,000 would                                                                   
not qualify.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:31:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TARALEE ALCOCK,  LIBRARIAN, PETERSBURG, testified  in support                                                                   
of the bill.   She addressed Section 1,  library construction                                                                   
and major  expansion matching  grant program.   She described                                                                   
the need  for a  new library  in Petersburg  as urgent.   She                                                                   
noted that financial support by  the community was essential.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JULIE HURSEY,  PETERSBURG,  testified in  support of  SB 119,                                                                   
especially the  state matching fund component.   She detailed                                                                   
plans for a new Petersburg library.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:34:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MELINDA HOFSTAD, PETERSBURG, testified  in support of SB 119.                                                                   
She spoke  of the  diligent work of  a local community  group                                                                   
toward building  a new  library in  Petersburg.  She  praised                                                                   
the  local  librarian  and shared  statistics  about  library                                                                   
usage.   She mentioned  local fundraising  efforts for  a new                                                                   
library.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:38:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas commented that  the definitions of "community"                                                                   
and  "on-going maintenance"  should be  clarified.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman  explained that  the issues  of on-going  maintenance                                                                   
and  fiscal  capability  would  be  addressed  in  department                                                                   
regulations.  He  pointed out that the bill  is going forward                                                                   
without the funding in it, but  regulations would be written.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Peterson   spoke  of   researching  the  definition   of                                                                   
"community".   Legislative Legal Services explained  that the                                                                   
term is used  throughout statutes and is  an all-encompassing                                                                   
term  that includes  towns, cities,  and  boroughs.   Senator                                                                   
Thomas asked  if a community could  be just an area  that has                                                                   
existed for  a long  time.  Mr.  Peterson said the  community                                                                   
does  not have  to be  organized.   The provision  in the  CS                                                                   
states that the community would  have to provide a 20 percent                                                                   
matching   grant,   which   would    eliminate   very   small                                                                   
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  asked if  a community  defined by federal  law                                                                   
would  qualify.  Mr.  Peterson  replied that  it would.   For                                                                   
example, the community of Metlakatla  would qualify.  Senator                                                                   
Dyson  asked if  tribes  and villages  would.   Mr.  Peterson                                                                   
replied  that  they  would  also qualify.      Senator  Dyson                                                                   
inquired  if a  community not  recognized by  state law,  but                                                                   
recognized under  federal law,  would qualify.   Mr. Peterson                                                                   
said if a community  is not recognized by state  law it would                                                                   
not  qualify.   He offered  to research  the subject  further                                                                   
with the drafter of the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:42:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson MOVED to REPORT  CSHB 119(FIN) out of Committee                                                                   
with individual  recommendations and the  accompanying fiscal                                                                   
note.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 119(FIN) was REPORTED out  of Committee with a "do pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and   with  new  zero  fiscal   note  by  the                                                                   
Department of Education and Early Development.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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